Yes I and scout are on the same page and on this specific topic I'd appreciate a hold on what has become spam to my PM box is the topic of a sticky in every section for this topic, which I'll be leaving up to the admins to make the call on to sticky or not sticking of the topic. It's very much appreciated and a true sign of leadership on this topic and plague to the community but I believe this is a topic that the judgement call falls on those further up the chain of command than I or any specific moderator. X) nomad